Even after 34 years in the CIA with access to classified UAP programs, Jim Semivan admits: "We don't know what the phenomenon is."
In this eye-opening conversation, former CIA Operations Officer Jim Semivan shares why the intelligence community remains baffled by UAPs despite 80 years of study. As co-founder of To The Stars Academy and a veteran of the National Clandestine Service, Jim offers an unprecedented insider's perspective on humanity's most perplexing mystery.
? Key revelations from this discussion:
? Why his personal UAP encounter in the 1990s changed everything
? The real reason presidents don't get full UAP briefings
? How "the phenomenon" defies our understanding of physics and consciousness
? Why disclosure is far more dangerous than the public realizes
? The legacy programs that have studied this since the 1940s
? How UAPs demonstrate capabilities that suggest reality itself is malleable
? The "wicked problem" that makes this unsolvable with current science
? Why even those with cosmic clearances say "we don't know"
Jim doesn't claim to have answers - instead, he reveals why even those on the inside are struggling to comprehend something that appears to be "classically indifferent" to humanity while demonstrating godlike capabilities.
? "Disclosure means scaring seven-year-olds," Jim explains, as he walks us through why the government's 80-year silence might be more about helplessness than conspiracy.
This isn't another UFO interview. It's a philosophical exploration of what happens when the world's most powerful intelligence agency encounters something beyond human comprehension.
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? Books Mentioned:
"The UFO Paradox" - Keith Thompson
"Angels and Aliens" - Keith Thompson
"Daimonic Reality" - Patrick Harpur
Forbidden Science series - Jacques Vallée
?️ Guest: Jim Semivan
Co-founder, To The Stars Academy
Former CIA Operations Officer (34 years)
National Clandestine Service veteran
Youtube Channel:
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0:00 Intro
3:18 Jim's CIA Background and UAP Skepticism
6:01 The 1990s Personal UAP Experience
17:12 Physical Evidence and Agency Colleague's Reaction
25:28 Discovering the "Invisible College" in Intelligence
32:32 Classified Briefings on Paranormal Phenomena
40:52 The Startling Reality of Classified Evidence
49:48 Why Government Disclosure Is So Complex
58:20 Catastrophic vs Limited Disclosure Scenarios
1:13:48 The "Wickedest Problem" Facing Humanity
1:22:44 Positive and Negative Effects of Disclosure
1:30:44 Phenomenon as Control System and Motivation
1:38:16 Government Craft and Reverse Engineering
1:44:36 Personal Philosophy: "Be Kind"
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